What if valkyrie had succeeded

An A-bomb dropped on Moscow? The possibilities are endless. What would have been a certainty had Stalin chosen not to fight is that everything would be thrown into the defeat of Japan. With the boffins of the Manhattan Project still just under a year away from detonating their first atomic bomb, this would have involved a full-scale invasion by conventional military means of Japan and its territories. Millions would have likely died in the resulting bloodbath, and much of Japan would have ended up in ruins.

The war, then, would likely have been over by either the end of or the start of The price paid in Allied lives would have been very high. Of course, none of this or the thousands of other scenarios a successful July 20th plot throws up happened.

After they failed to kill Hitler, the plotters were quickly rounded up and either killed themselves or executed, often horribly.

Stauffenberg was arrested, court-martialed and shot by a firing squad along with three fellow conspirators in the early hours of June 21st. Many of the July plotters met their end stripped naked while they slowly strangled to death dangling from short ropes attached to meat hooks.

It was a grisly way to die. The Gestapo went into overdrive after the July 20th plot was uncovered. This, in turn, led to thousands of arrests, trials and executions which continued right up to the fall of the Third Reich.

Prominent among them was the former head of the Nazi intelligence service, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, and the celebrated war hero, General Erwin Rommel.

Unlike the unfortunate Canaris, Rommel was offered the choice of death by suicide or national humiliation, execution and the arrest and imprisonment of his entire family.

He was given a state funeral and buried with full military honours. Nazi Germany would eventually unconditionally surrender on the 7th of May By then, Hitler was dead and the glorious Reich he had planned to last for a thousand years had lasted a mere twelve.

The Cold War awaited the victorious Allies. Berlin was divided, Germany split between the victors; the countries of Central and Eastern Europe became Soviet-controlled prison states; the USSR and the USA engaged in a decades-long arms race and the very real possibility of nuclear Armageddon hung over the world.

How much of this could have been avoided had the July 20th plot succeeded will never be known. New posts. Paradox Forum. Developer Diaries.

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Search Advanced…. Log in Register. Home Trending Latest threads New posts Developer diaries. What if Valkyrie had succeeded? Thread starter PanosB3 Start date Jan 1, Jump to latest Follow Reply. Install the app. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Mar 1, With so many IF threads I started thinking scenarios, and I had never thought what would have happened if Operation Valkyrie had succeeded.

Would it even change much? I mean the war was pretty much lost for the Germans at that point but could they have achieved a peace with the west or something similar? How would the new government action militarily compared to Hitler? Karimas Second Lieutenant 49 Badges.

Aug 5, In our timeline? No can really say, maybe they get a deal with the west, maybe not. That could work out Could also end in an uprising in germany, wich would be the fastest end for the that war.

As well as get all into seriously strange peace talks. And if no deal would be found, i guess germany would surrender sooner. For the battle Who has the power will decide that. The last is Stauffenberg himself.

Stauffenberg had placed his briefcase, containing a time bomb, beneath a large oak table only a few feet from Hitler, then quietly excused himself on the pretext of making a phone call. Within moments of the blast, he and Haeften had leapt into a Mercedes that sped them to a nearby air field, where a plane waited to take them on the mile flight back to Berlin. Stieff and Fellgiebel remain at Wolfsschanze. With Hitler dead, his task is to alert the conspirators in the German capital that the assassination has succeeded.

As chief of army signals, he is ideally positioned to do so. To his astonishment, however, Field Marshals Wilhelm Keitel and Alfred Jodl, both of whom survived the blast, immediately order a complete communications blackout.

In Berlin, Gen. Friedrich Olbricht waits impatiently for word on the assassination attempt. Ironically, the individual who did the most to place Olbricht in this position was Hitler himself. Months before, Olbricht persuaded Hitler of the danger of an uprising by the millions of foreign laborers and prisoners of war within the borders of the Third Reich.

Such an uprising could be quelled, he pointed out, by using the Replacement Army, a reserve force consisting of trainees, cadets, and soldiers who were lightly wounded or on sick leave. The plan is code-named Operation Valkyrie. Since then, Olbricht and the other conspirators have recrafted Valkyrie into a plan to neutralize SS and Gestapo installations and capture communications facilities.

The plotters have decided their best chance of success is to persuade military commanders and the German public that a cabal within the SS and Gestapo has assassinated Hitler and that their coup is in reality a countercoup.

By the time the true story emerges, they will have a new government in place and will have secured the backing of the army leadership. Former chief of staff Ludwig Beck, still much respected by the officer corps and one of the original members of the conspiracy, is to serve as head of state, with Olbricht as minister of war and Field Marshal Erwin von Witzleben as head of the German army. This not only gave him direct contact with Hitler, but allowed him, along with Olbricht, to place many sympathetic officers in key positions.

Although Olbricht knows the approximate time the bomb should have gone off, he cannot act until he hears for certain that the assassination has taken place.